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Guys,

Following on from comments made at last National meeting regarding junior development and the re-accreditation of our class as a training boat the following is a precise' of details recieved from Yachting Aust.

In light of our small numbers they beleive that we have a very small chance of achieving this, and at the moment we have some work to do.

They are having some doubt as to even our status as a national class. We need to bring back into the fold (and support them) actively the following states, Tas, NSW, Qld and the NT all of whom have varying numbers of boats. We also need to develop an

in house

training system and where ever possible align our state and national titles to a

feeder

class, something like the Arrows and Arafuras which would give them a class to aim for and us maybe some numbers too. We have boats overseas, not only in Sth Africa but also I beleieve in Canada & PNG....maybe we need a closer working relationship with these too

We are the one boat that closest resembles the Tornado (read tornado resembles us as we came first)...and maybe it is time to address the spinnaker issue and accredit it as an offical part of our class....the way for us is forward and all this can help.

Input please, time for us all to put our thinking caps on as this will for sure be raised again at the next National meeting and afterall, it is OUR class

ciao


 
Posted : November 7, 2006 7:37 pm
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Great Post,

from my experienc N.S.W. or more precisely Sydney will be the most important part, as it is definatley treated as the centre of Yachting Australia's universe. The are some Mossies getting going currently, with some support from Vic. so hopefully this is a start in the right direction.

Arrows and Arafuras have been combining with Mossies for years at Vic. titles so again this may be heading in the right direction.

Tornado with it's current rig has not that much in common with the Mossie with it's non spinnaker rig, in the way it is sailed, so I would agree embracing the spinnaker would be essential. Again the proposed rule changes are hopefully heading the spinnaker in the right direction.

Realy it is up to the members to drive these things, maybe a day at a Y.V. Youth event where there are Mossies with Spin for them to sail would be a start, to see if they get excited?

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Posted : November 8, 2006 3:03 am
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Ive been thinking about starting an assoc. up in Sydney to hopefully get the mossie's racing up here again.
Been talking to Mick about it as well, so we'll see what happens from here.
Im thinking making spinnakers part of the mossie's would have to be essential to getting more ppl on board especially up here in NSW( my 2cents).


 
Posted : November 8, 2006 3:29 am
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Guys,

We are the one boat that closest resembles the Tornado (read tornado resembles us as we came first)...and maybe it is time to address the spinnaker issue and accredit it as an offical part of our class....the way for us is forward and all this can help.

Input please, time for us all to put our thinking caps on as this will for sure be raised again at the next National meeting and afterall, it is OUR class

ciao

Do you have a spinnaker on one of your Mosquitos David?

I think we are voting on spinnaker measurement rules at the next AGM aren't we? I am going to vote in favour of allowing the NMCCA to run an event with spinnakers and adopting the dimensions proposed.

It would be good to see a Mosquito with spinnaker division at 2007 Nationals if proposal 3 is adopted (link below).

http://home.vicnet.net.au/~nmcca/doc/2007_rules_v2.pdf

If the above proposal is adopted the class should support equally those who wish to compete with or without spinnakers at a National and state level.

Personally I would be very sad to witness the demise of the spinnakerless Mosquito.

Darryn
1704


 
Posted : November 11, 2006 5:19 pm
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After having my first spinnaker run on a cat. I am all for the spinnaker on the Mossie. It adds a new dimension to sailing.
Big thanks to Stephen for hooking me up a ride on a F18, A real eye opener.


 
Posted : November 12, 2006 4:51 am
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I'm not sure I would like to see us rush into having a spinnaker division at the titles. As it stands now that would only mean smaller divisions all round.

Next year we will be able to see from the Christies Beach entries, how many spinnaker boats we could have had racing, and what the remaining fleets would have looked like.


 
Posted : November 12, 2006 6:54 pm
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Tim,

It's an interesting thought having the choice of which setup to sail for at titles and trying to best guess who you will competing agaist. It will also be interesting to see how many brand new Mozzies will be setup for F16 level racing.

The Mozzie with spinnaker can already enter the F16 state titles and national titles when they get to that stage. I'd love to see 30 plus F16's including the Mozzies at national level titles.

Regards,

Peter


 
Posted : November 13, 2006 3:40 am
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In reply to several comments, generally it was posted so as to stimulate thought as to how and where we go to promote the class and especially as an option for those juniors etc, looking at their next step up the racing ladder.

The question was asked at the last nationals as to how we gain (regain) our accediattion as a intermediate class and the response I got, from Yachting Aust, was not all that encouraging.

I still think we need to align, one way or the other with what could best be called

feeder

classes in all states (understanding the Vics have already done that) and supporting the states that are in the process of re- growing.

As for our (personal) boats yes we are in the process of rigging the first one for spinnaker and yes I am looking forward to sailing it in that configuration. The spinnaker was one of the deciding factors in returning to the class from A's.

So let's all have along think about how we develop and agreed all has to be done to maintain the numbers we have at present.


 
Posted : November 13, 2006 7:53 pm
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Morning all,

For those of you who were at the Annual General Meeting know the update of where we are at as to gaining the accredittation as an intermediate class....or better still a

lead in

class to Tornados.

I have read an interesting article pronted recently in Aust Sailing regarding just this matter.

The Accreditted

pathways

to Tornados as far as Yachting Aust is concerned is thro' any of the following classes, 470's, Boards, or god forbit (sp) damn 29er's.

Now I don't need to tell any of you the relevance and similarities that those classes have with multi hulls, absolutely zip. Even the Hobie 16 (the YA junior multi) has no lead in to the Olympic multi hull...........bizarre.

Anyway, I still believe that with work and the associations continuing to grow again we can fill that obvious viod in their training plan. Maybe we can look at holding States and Nationals with some of classes that have more juniors and grow all of us together.

Just some food for thought..........enjoy your sailing, introduce as many youth to our boats and watch our class grow, we are still the ideal boat for those wanting to progress to the top (Tornados)


 
Posted : January 11, 2007 4:50 pm
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The only problem I think is the amount of mozzies around.
Anyone sailing mozzies and reading these posts thinks that they are the perfect training class. I think its just a matter of trying to get more mozzies out there.
I have no solutions maybee someone else will?
Is it that each state bilds up some loan boats for people to try?


 
Posted : January 12, 2007 7:33 am
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SA has a loan boat,

The Sting

1510, info here http://www.mossie.net/

Our main growth comes from mature sailors, they tend to stick around too.

I am just happy that youth sailors sail anything, eventually we will win over those that realise sailing can be fast, fun and doesn't have to hurt.

I think the Tornado is the wrong Olympic multihull, $60k isn't affordable for your average sailor to have a go at. While the Hobie16 may not be the most desirable cat to sail they are everywhere and cheap. Compare the Laser and the Fin. Laser has growth of 8000 boats per annum worldwide Fin has approx 100, which boat gets more people into sailing?

Darryn
1704


 
Posted : January 12, 2007 3:38 pm
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I saw your loan boat. <img src=

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/> Did anyone use it at the nats?
I would of liked to.


 
Posted : January 12, 2007 3:42 pm
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Yes, Alan Pettman sailed it as Mk1, it was also used in first round of our states as Mk2.

Darryn


 
Posted : January 12, 2007 3:51 pm
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