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(@edgarapoe)
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[#13414]

I believe this is sweet and simple. As time goes by we may find a need for much more, but this hopefully will be a starting place.
I expect quite a bit of criticism even as we have it, so let me know your thoughts on the Board Forum during the storm.
thanks,
Rick

Here is the text:

Draft Event Sanction (For Chapters or other Event Organizers)

NAMSA Event Endorsement Guidelines

Objective:
Communicate to the multihull sailing community that a specific event welcomes all multihull sailboats under one national umbrella.

Benefits:
* Event Organizers will get the benefit of low cost Liability Insurance for each event.
* Regattas which meet the sanctioning criteria established below shall be permitted to use the "NAMSA" logo when advertising the event.
* Events will be listed as "NAMSA Sanctioned Events" in the Schedule of Events in Catamaran Sailor Magazine
* NOR Flyers may be posted in Catamaran Sailor Magazine at discounted rates.
* Pre-race advertising in Catamaran Sailor Magazine at discounted rates.
* Post-race coverage in NAMSA News and/or Catamaran Sailor Magazine
* Participants get points entered into a National NAMSA database.
* Increased participation in your events due to points.
* Tips and suggestions on how to run a quality regatta, i.e., Suggested NORs, Sis, Race Course, Scoring Software, RC Equipment, etc.

Criteria:
* The Event Organizer must be a member of NAMSA.
* All events shall be conducted in accordance with the current applicable rules.
* Must have liability insurance.

Insurance:
* NAMSA insurance will cover personal injury or property damage related lawsuits brought against NAMSA, club members, employees, volunteers, event organizers, directors and the club/chapter. The cost is $50 per year.
* If Additional Insured is required, there is an additional fee of $100 per year.
* If the Event Organizer owns or leases the property of the event, the Event Organizer may need to acquire additional insurance.
* Each sailor must sign a release of liability in order to participate in any NAMSA event before the event starts. In that release each sailor must agree to be responsible for any and all damage caused to any person, boat or personal property as a result of racing activities both on shore and on the water.

Buoy Racing, Distance Racing or Fun Events: (These are suggestions only – to make a better event)
* All multihull sailboats are welcome to sail in the event unless safety precautions dictate otherwise.
* If the event is a Major Event for a particular multihull class, it is not required to allow all multihulls to participate.
* For NOR, it is suggested that the 2001-2004 Racing Rules of Sailing, Appendix J, Notice or Race be used.
* For Sailing Instructions, it is suggested that the 2001-2004 Racing Rules of Sailing, Appendix K, Sailing Instructions be used.
* Scoring: Event Organizer may use any scoring system they so desire. It is suggested that Sailwave (Freeware) be the scoring software of NAMSA sanctioned events.


 
Posted : March 14, 2004 10:00 am
(@Anonymous 37750)
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Looks good to me as a starting point. When will you post it? Thanks for your help getting this together. What is next? I plan to start on standardizing some forms....?


 
Posted : March 23, 2004 7:47 pm
(@edgarapoe)
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I did post it on the NAMSA Open Forum and the only critique was from Mark Schneider, but that is standard procedure with him.
Since we still have no copy of the policy we cannot verify. However, I still think we are set to go.
Rick


 
Posted : March 24, 2004 9:11 am
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Think we should post on both of the Open Forums?

Bob


 
Posted : March 24, 2004 11:35 am
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Certainly not the Rubber Room.
I will post on the Open Forum, however and see what comes of it.
Rick


 
Posted : March 24, 2004 11:42 am
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David Ingram is asking for an explaination of the point system. Please post ASAP, he is influential in the Mid Fl. Region. I posted a humorous pause, but he needs a qualified response.


 
Posted : March 24, 2004 8:02 pm
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I have no idea what it is. Not sure who had the idea, but they should answer that one.
Rick


 
Posted : March 25, 2004 10:26 am
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Perhaps it has something to do with that line.." points will be entered in the NAMSA database" that I read on the notice Rick posted??


 
Posted : March 25, 2004 1:22 pm
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Yhat is what I assumed he is referring to. Are the points needed to qualify an entry into the NAMSA National Championship Regatta?


 
Posted : March 25, 2004 1:35 pm
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The NAs are wide open and anyone can attend. Still do not know what the points are for.
Rick


 
Posted : March 26, 2004 8:19 am
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Well Board Members, we have to come up with a reason to have a point system or eliminate it from the sanctioning document.

suggestions:

Assign monetary value to them and redeem them at the end of the year for sailing gear at catsailoor.com. NAMSA coffers would fund the program.

Provide a special "participation" recognition to members that accumulate a certain number of points each year

I understand that there are no funds in the bank right now but the points might be an incentive to have NAMSA regattas

WHAT IS THE CURRENT STATUS OF THE MEMBERSHIP. Latest count?


 
Posted : March 27, 2004 7:19 am
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Eric,

Latest membership count is 10 Board, 20 Individual, 2 Chapter. Also, I haven't forgotten getting you the logos. Just realized there on my computer at work. I'll get you them tomorrow.

Bob


 
Posted : March 28, 2004 4:52 pm
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I can't remember where the points thing came into play or who it was that suggested it. But, whoever that was should come forward at this time and let us know what he/she had in mind.
I really do not see anything wrong with the idea, if we knew its format. For example, we could use it as a rating system as they do in Tennis.
But, for now, we probably should eliminate the idea unless we can formulate it.

By the way, I happened to find a computer to get back on line at a friend's house in Spokane, WA. I will be away from computers until APril 6 -- stopped here to do some spring skiing in Idaho and then on to teach a sailing seminars for Corsair Trimarans in Oakland.

So, don't freak out if you don't hear from me again until then.
Rick


 
Posted : March 30, 2004 11:08 am
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Rick,

I think the points thing was my idea - but I didn't put it in the document. I don't know where that came from.

I do think that having a points series is an important thing that will add local validity to NAMSA - While Mark Schneider is not exactly a NAMSA supporter, he does have some good ideas (and tapping him could help us build more of a relationship with CRAM). It's fine if we want to take it out for now - but it really wouldn't take much to come up with something AS LONG AS we have fleets that are reporting and participating.


 
Posted : March 30, 2004 4:05 pm
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Hi Jake,
I agree, it could be a good idea.., but what is it?
Points for what? If we are going to say it, we need to know what we are saying.
We can have points for a lot of good things.., i.e., National Multihull Points Champ! (cool) perhaps based on the number of boats you beat -- meaning the consistant winners of the biggest classes will be the NAMSA Champion.
Or points for an event that we may put on, like the Alter Cup without the dumb politics.
etc., edc.,
Lets either drop it, or figure something out.

Rick


 
Posted : March 30, 2004 7:26 pm
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let me stew on this tonight and I'll see if I can come up with one proposal for how a points system might be structured.


 
Posted : March 31, 2004 10:18 am
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