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Nacra F17 Sloop Class rules are know posted
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Posted : June 26, 2008 4:58 pm
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Anyone know the price for F17SL race rig with trailer? Off to Fla soon to join the mix.

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Posted : June 26, 2008 9:22 pm
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Doug,

For pricing, I would suggest contacting a Nacra dealer. I know KS has a F17 jib kit already on site. That sure is a nice looking boat!

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Posted : June 27, 2008 12:57 am
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May I ask what exactly the following class rules intent to do ?

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11.2 Class rules may vary slightly from one country to another. Do not
assume that the rules that apply for the United States will apply in
another country. Be certain to familiarize yourself with the class rules
of the country in which you are competing. A licensed NACRA F17SL builder in
another country may modify the INCA class rules for that country provided
that they have been approved by INCA.

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11.5 The NACRA F17SL may not conform to International Formula
Rules.

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Posted : June 27, 2008 6:03 am
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Doug,

For pricing, I would suggest contacting a Nacra dealer. I know KS has a F17 jib kit already on site. That sure is a nice looking boat!

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Bob:

Is mid pole still a continuous line like my 4.3 was? I see you have an end pole like I had one the 4.3. Would spin be a handle to set for a female? See you soon for drink and dinner on the way.

Doug


 
Posted : June 27, 2008 6:52 am
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Doug,

The boat in the picture is brand new and has the one line continuous halyard setup. It also has a mid pole snuffer. Yep, that lady launches the chute!

See you on the trail,
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Posted : June 27, 2008 9:06 am
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Bob:

I should be in Hollywood around the weekend of July 18th. Can you line me up a ride on anyone you know around there?

Doug


 
Posted : June 28, 2008 2:55 am
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Doug,

You are going right by Pensacola! Get with Kirk. He has 2 boats worthy of a sail!!

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Posted : June 28, 2008 8:09 am
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Doug
I'm looking at all the single handers in the US market.
The F17 started at 12.3K*, F16s about 16.5K & up* and Hobie FX One was around 17K.
* price will vary depends of options.

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Posted : June 29, 2008 1:40 pm
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The F17 started at 12.3K*, F16s about 16.5K & up* and Hobie FX One was around 17K.
* price will vary depends of options.

Rich

What is the cost of the jib kit on the 17? Only fair and reasonable to compare (and quote online) the cost of the F16 with the cost of the 17 WITH the jib kit and extra trap. The price of the F16 includes the jib, sheets, blocks, extra trap, etc I believe.


 
Posted : June 29, 2008 8:27 pm
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F16s about 16.5K & up

That is the highest F16 quote I ever saw for the US market. So I would find it far more believable if it is written as

16.5K and down

. This 16.5k quote probably includes several upgrades like kevlar hulls as well (and some wishful thinking).

I guess one can read the footnote :

* price will vary depends of options.

in two directions.

But I have to admit that if indeed 12.3k is accurate for a fully fitted sloop F17, then that is is an impossible quote for F16's to beat. The F16 sloops have never been quoted below 14k in the US. And indeed 12.3k will be at a level that any F16 builder trying to match that will go bankrupt.

Personally I don't even believe that any modern and fully fitted sloop spinnaker boat can be build for that quote while retaining a profit/agent margin or even recoupering the building/transport costs. That it is not the place to discuss that here.

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The price of the F16 includes the jib, sheets, blocks, extra trap, etc I believe.

Any official quote for the F16's includes everything needed for a sloop rigged, 2-up, spinnaker boat in race attire. F16's don't have any upgrades that are required for sailing/racing in a different mode. The quote system is reversed. If you want/need less then you get deductions.

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Posted : June 30, 2008 6:03 am
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That is the highest F16 quote I ever saw for the US market.

Buying anything from the EU is a little spendy at the moment. The FXone went up in price $1500 from when I first started looking. Some of that will be shipping costs being more, but the bulk is the exchange rate.


 
Posted : June 30, 2008 5:11 pm
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This is the latest I got from Matt on the Balde. I have yet to call on the F17SL.

Doug


 
Posted : July 2, 2008 5:18 pm
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Ouch that is expensive!


 
Posted : July 3, 2008 8:37 am
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So is the Sloop!!!! $14,900 from KO Sailing site <img src=

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Posted : July 3, 2008 8:52 am
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Try Key Sailing, I think they have a demo and Curry's older boat. Probably pick up the sloop kit for around $800.00


 
Posted : July 3, 2008 12:20 pm
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You gotta pay to play. R+D ain't cheap, neither is tooling up for a product. Although it is more than I would have guessed.

See I'm habitually stupid, and were I interested in a Blade I would spring for the coloured hulls, kevlar, their own cradles. With a trailer, shipping, and tax's I would have close to $20k into it I bet.

Doug, find yourself a used F17, or a FXone. I payed just over $10k for my boat and its three years old. One sold in Alabama a while back for around $8K a while back, didn't have wings though, but it did have a chute. Not bad considering thats less than half of a new one.


 
Posted : July 3, 2008 2:52 pm
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Doug,

I think if you call around to a few other dealers you might find the price a little more enticing! Check the 1 used and 1 demo at Key Sailing. Good luck!!

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Posted : July 3, 2008 5:45 pm
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Bob:

Fla job has put things on hold. They claim work has slowed up. <img src=

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Doug


 
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