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So I have seen a lot of furlers, home made to high dollar. Wondering what kind of experience you guys have with them?

Found this one that looks affordable, is it decent? http://www.shopsoundboatworks.com/roabdejibfuh.html?cmp=googleproducts&kw=roabdejibfuh&gclid=CJrE1s7XorgCFW1yQgodNTIAzg

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Kevin


 
Posted : July 9, 2013 3:07 am
David Bonin
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This is my second season using that furler. Works great so far. One issue is that the slot at each end is a little narrow. you basically have to attach both sides using a bow shackle or use a single tang and pin in the slots. To attach an adjuster. No big deal if you know about it.

Given a preference i like the hobie 18 style harken furlers the best. Bullet proof and you can get a convenient bracket for a wind indicator.


 
Posted : July 9, 2013 3:20 am
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that one is load rated higher than the harken dingy/cat ones but is not as robust

They seem to work fine on smaller cats (16's) but don't seem to hold up on 18's and up

PS the Hobie style ones are made by harken

Found this one that looks affordable, is it decent? http://www.shopsoundboatw…rE1s7XorgCFW1yQgodNTIAzg


 
Posted : July 9, 2013 3:32 am
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cellguru wrote: Wondering what kind of experience you guys have with them?

You will need an upper swivel to use the furler. Buy a good one. Some of the lessor quality ones do not rotate well or freeze, and that is never good.


 
Posted : July 9, 2013 5:53 am
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Last Time I checked the on Harken below bridle furlers were being discontinued. This is the only model now listed on thier website( http://www.harken.com/productdetail.aspx?id=5650 ) and it says that it is out of stock on line and to check with your dealer. Discounted to 161.00.

Edited by beachsailor on Jul 10, 2013 - 09:22 AM.


 
Posted : July 10, 2013 3:21 am
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If you purchase the kit (upper and lower units) the price is not much more.
I would recommend the high load unit (or purchase turlon bearings and do the upgrade yourself) for most cats.

beachsailor wrote: Last Time I checked the on Harken below bridle furlers were being discontinued. This is the only model now listed on thier website( http://www.harken.com/productdetail.aspx?id=5650 ) and it says that it is out of stock on line and to check with your dealer. Discounted to 161.00.Edited by beachsailor on Jul 10, 2013 - 09:22 AM.


 
Posted : July 10, 2013 3:37 am
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How about this, the price is right?

http://www.amazon.com/Ronstan-Above-Deck-Jib-Furler-RF76/dp/B007NTTU20/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1373593439&sr=8-1&keywords=Jib+Furler

Nevermind, it looks like it is the same one!

Edited by cellguru on Jul 11, 2013 - 07:50 PM.


 
Posted : July 11, 2013 1:47 pm
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Wrong type. You need the below bridle to work correctly.


 
Posted : July 12, 2013 2:05 am
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Could a guy not fabricate a mount to make it "below bridle"? It looks like that is the primary difference between this one and the NLA Harken http://www.harken.com/productdetail.aspx?id=5650

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Posted : July 12, 2013 3:14 am
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No. The bearing under the neck has to support the load. If you look at the one you selected there is no neck, just the attachment point. Look for a used one. Even if worn Harken sells rebuid kits.


 
Posted : July 12, 2013 8:33 am
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This is my second season using that furler. Works great so far. One issue is that the slot at each end is a little narrow. you basically have to attach both sides using a bow shackle or use a single tang and pin in the slots.

So how did you make this work Wolfman?


 
Posted : July 12, 2013 11:39 am
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So is this the one everyone likes?

http://www.murrays.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=MS&Product_Code=50-61900000&Category_Code=


 
Posted : July 12, 2013 12:23 pm
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It wasnt a problem. You DONT need an underbridle furler, they are just nice to have. You attach the 2 bridle wires to the bottom of the furler using a bow shackle (or 3 is you have fork ends on you bridle wires). Then attach your adjuster to the top of the furler with a short stainless tang. Your swivel and an air block attach to the top of the forestay for the halyard. You run the halyard back to the adjuster to tension and tie off the sail. The only trick is you have to get your forestay shortened to compensate for the length of the furler and swivel. Quite a few cats run a similar setup. I think hobie has a schematic on thier website. I cam draw one next week when im back home if you like.


 
Posted : July 12, 2013 1:35 pm
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If you sail hard every weekend like MN3 you are better off with the Harken. I sail about 20-30 days a year and the ronstan is fine for me. Or if you are patient you can get a harken setup used on the buy and sell here or ebay. I think there is one on there right now.


 
Posted : July 12, 2013 1:55 pm
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Thanks Wolfman, that would be great, I think I have a pretty good mental picture of it all. A photo or two would be great!

I cam draw one next week when im back home if you like.

Thanks
Kevin


 
Posted : July 12, 2013 1:55 pm
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One issue is that the slot at each end is a little narrow.

Never forget the judicious use of a Tap-O-Meter, AKA ball been hammer.
I have thimbles on the bottom end of the forestay of my 5.7. It didn't want to go into the end of the Harken drum. 15 seconds with the Tap-O-Meter changed that.


 
Posted : July 12, 2013 4:20 pm
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+1

t wasnt a problem. You DONT need an underbridle furler

I love Murray's but i wouldn't purchase this from them. Find a dealer (or call harken) and purchase an entire kit (upper and lower) together or you will pay MUCH more


 
Posted : July 12, 2013 11:58 pm
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