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MaryAWells
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Darryl,
It is not that foils don't work. The problem is that the Trifoiler and the Windrider Rave sail very poorly when there is not enough wind to foil. I would be nice to have a little, high-performance tri that would sail well ON the water as well as above it. <img src=

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Posted : January 17, 2007 11:20 pm
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I understand fully what you are saying Mary, and I agree 100%, that is why I am using the Alpha Omega F14 as the centre hull and building two smaller versions of that hull for the ama's. This is so that it will have an exceptional performance in light, non-foiling conditions. Even when it is foiling I am intending for the actual hulls to be able to come into contact with the water as an assist in heavy conditions without detriment to it’s stability or speed and thereby increase it’s all round sail ability, it’s stability and it’s sea worthiness. You could say that it will be a foil assisted tri but I am looking at the project as a hybrid tri and foiler that hopefully takes the best from both and functions through the widest range of sailing conditions better. That’s the goal any way. Ohh, and it has to look

pretty

too, (if it didn't no one would want one)


 
Posted : January 17, 2007 11:46 pm
MaryAWells
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Sounds great! <img src=

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Posted : January 17, 2007 11:53 pm
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Darryl:

When will the Alpha Omega F14 be available in the US. I was very impressed with the video. That little boat screams!!!

Doug


 
Posted : January 18, 2007 9:39 pm
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We went through this in earlier posts Doug, and the problem is two fold. Back then the exchange rate between the Australian and the American dollars made a direct import to the states a rather expensive exercise, and that exchange rate has only gotten worse since then, and secondly, we looked for a builder in the states to make the Alpha Omega F14 there, but, although there was interest none of the manufacturers we contacted could see enough profit and/or demand there to enter into the venture. Pity as we would love to see the Alpha Omega F14 sailing in the US of A.


 
Posted : January 18, 2007 11:32 pm
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Darryl:

When will the Alpha Omega F14 be available in the US. I was very impressed with the video. That little boat screams!!!

Doug

You guys can have the moulds for the 430/F14 for the cost of the freight if anyone is interested.

http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4287241557

Bern


 
Posted : January 22, 2007 3:13 am
Bob Hall
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You guys can have the moulds for the 430/F14 for the cost of the freight if anyone is interested

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This isn't the mold for Darryl's apha-omega hull design is it? Who's design is this plug/mould made from?

Regards,
Bob


 
Posted : January 22, 2007 8:54 am
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You guys can have the moulds for the 430/F14 for the cost of the freight if anyone is interested

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This isn't the mold for Darryl's apha-omega hull design is it? Who's design is this plug/mould made from?

Regards,
Bob

No, not Darryls AO, it's my own design and build.

Bern


 
Posted : January 23, 2007 1:47 am
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That killed it.


 
Posted : January 24, 2007 12:25 am
Bob Hall
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Hi Berny…I heard a lot of good things about both you and your 430 design…that it is right in the ball park with A&O…don't let anyone kill your dream.

Regards,
Bob


 
Posted : January 24, 2007 4:24 pm
Bob Hall
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Darryl... Is this is this one of your older Alpha Omega's on E-bay?...
Item number: 180076972738


 
Posted : January 24, 2007 10:49 pm
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Yes, that's the 4.4m Alpha Omega and despite what is given as it's overall length it is in fact approx 14'7" long and carries 132sq ft of sail.


 
Posted : January 25, 2007 12:05 am
Bob Hall
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Hi Berny…I heard a lot of good things about both you and your 430 design…that it is right in the ball park with A&O…don't let anyone kill your dream.

Regards,
Bob

No mate, actually I'm more than happy with the boat. What I meant was, my declaration that I actually designed and built the boat seems to kill any further interest in it, particularly here in Oz regardless of it's good form both on and off the water.

Thanks all the same for your generous support but my dreams of providing a very good, reasonably high tech boat to encourage our younger sailors and bring the 14ft cat into the 21st century died a long time ago sadly.


 
Posted : January 25, 2007 5:10 am
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How much for a set of 430 hulls and how much for a complete boat ready to sail?


 
Posted : January 25, 2007 6:21 am
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How much for a set of 430 hulls and how much for a complete boat ready to sail?

I'd have to do the costings over again, it's been about six years since I had current numbers. Suffice to say way more expensive than a Mari, or Hobie cat, like you could own five or six of either of them for the same $$$ a 430 would cost.

In the mono hull ranks cashed up dads buy these sorts of toys for their sons/daughters but cat sailing dads race their own boats and the kids crew for dad = no market <img src=

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Posted : January 25, 2007 9:38 pm
Bob Hall
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Darryl
Would you under any circumstances consider making available a lines drawing/offset table of the A&O F-14?...Some time ago you told me that the design didn't lend itself to timber construction...not a problem...not interested in a wood hulls any way, and as you know there are many ways to make a male plug/mold to

one off

a couple of hulls regardless of how complex the compound curves are.

One of my favorite methods is to hot wire 1 lb density Styrofoam. Easily obtained, easy to work, relatively inexpensive and a quick process if you know what you are doing. Shape of the object (hull) is only limited by ones skill and imagination.

Regards,
Robert


 
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