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Mark P
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The NOR for the F16 Nations Cup is now posted on the Mumbles Yacht Club website;
www.mumblesyachtclub.co.uk
Please follow the link from the MYC homepage, and don't worry about Colin's sense of humour regarding the link! he has yet to sail a true singlehander.


 
Posted : February 2, 2007 11:18 am
Mark P
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Whilst taking my usual Friday night stroll to the Yacht Club I looked out towards Swansea Bay and imagined racing my new Cat. What does this have to do with the Nations Cup I hear you say, well currently I have proposed 12 races over three days so the courses wouldn't be that big. However, pending the general consensus I am proposing only two races on the Saturday, one standard course and one long course. From Swansea Docks to Mumbles Pier is approximately 3.5 miles. The MYC quite often run races around the Bay and given the prevailing wind usually ends up with a 3 mile run, 1 mile reach, 3 mile beat back towards Mumbles and another 1-2 mile reach (large rectangle). Tornado's have been known to get from Mumbles to Swansea in 12 minutes (far quicker than using a car)
So given that a lot of UK F16's are sailed in ponds how do you like the idea of a couple of laps on a 8 mile course?


 
Posted : February 17, 2007 2:07 pm
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Whilst taking my usual Friday night stroll to the Yacht Club I looked out towards Swansea Bay and imagined racing my new Cat. What does this have to do with the Nations Cup I hear you say, well currently I have proposed 12 races over three days so the courses wouldn't be that big. However, pending the general consensus I am proposing only two races on the Saturday, one standard course and one long course. From Swansea Docks to Mumbles Pier is approximately 3.5 miles. The MYC quite often run races around the Bay and given the prevailing wind usually ends up with a 3 mile run, 1 mile reach, 3 mile beat back towards Mumbles and another 1-2 mile reach (large rectangle). Tornado's have been known to get from Mumbles to Swansea in 12 minutes (far quicker than using a car)
So given that a lot of UK F16's are sailed in ponds how do you like the idea of a couple of laps on a 8 mile course?

Yes please, good training for the ECPR. Any way you could just make it W/L ? Also, as an aside I'll be down early and hope to sail both Wednesday and Thursday, do you have a guide to the water and any places / shallows / tides etc that need to be avoided ?

Aside 2, Is there anywhere that has a wireless point I might be able to borrow a few times ?


 
Posted : February 17, 2007 2:41 pm
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There are no issues re-sailing solo in the Bay, only when you go around the point and head off down the Gower penisular should you have company, either boat or crew. The tides are ideal so just hope the weather plays ball?
As for a wireless connection the MYC bar is all set up for as long as you are drinking.


 
Posted : February 17, 2007 3:25 pm
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There are no issues re-sailing solo in the Bay, only when you go around the point and head off down the Gower penisular should you have company, either boat or crew. The tides are ideal so just hope the weather plays ball?
As for a wireless connection the MYC bar is all set up for as long as you are drinking.

Excellent on both counts.

Anyone up for a longer trip on Thursday then ?


 
Posted : February 17, 2007 4:13 pm
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dang, have you guys really started the season? What is the air temperature down there?


 
Posted : February 17, 2007 4:16 pm
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dang, have you guys really started the season? What is the air temperature down there?

I was talking about the thursday before the event.

But tomorrow, for where I sail, the forcast according to windguru in 5-6kts, and the BBC is 7mph and 10 Deg C. Very odd temps for Feb.


 
Posted : February 17, 2007 5:26 pm
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The MYC Sailing Programme lasts 12 months, from 1st November till March 31st racing is every other week. Then Spring to Autumn its up to three races a week. Air and Water temp never really drops below 6 degrees Celsius. So far this year the Dry suit hasn't been required just a good winter wet suit. Last weekend we had about 4 inches of snow on the Friday and the racing was held in near perfect conditions the following Sunday. Today as with Simon on the other side of the Country it was around 10 degrees C.


 
Posted : February 17, 2007 6:27 pm
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Anyone up for a longer trip on Thursday then ?

I could be up for that - depending on the weather, and me actually fixing the top of my mast properly. My temporary fix (tape, lots of) is good enough for sailing near rescue boats, but I don't trust it further than that. Getting it upright after it filled last time took 4 people...

Paul


 
Posted : February 17, 2007 7:13 pm
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Pre-Entry is now available on the Mumbles Yacht Club website: Why not complete the online form and save yourself some additional hassle on 11.05.07 (less than 3 weeks to go)


 
Posted : April 21, 2007 5:44 pm
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I don't understand why you are having so much trouble with the mast leaking. The foam-sealant method has been used so many times over the last 15 years that there is no reason for it not to work properly. Have you found the cause of the leaks Paul ?

If not then I have a suggestion of what could be the cause.

Wouter


 
Posted : April 21, 2007 6:20 pm
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I'm not having trouble - that post is 2 months old from when I originally had the problem, I just never got round to fixing it. Thanks to John P, it got sorted last weekend.

The cause of the problem was that the seal at the top of the mast failed completely.

Paul


 
Posted : April 21, 2007 6:31 pm
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Sorry I had missed that. I hope all is solved now.

Wouter


 
Posted : April 22, 2007 3:28 am
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I'm not having trouble - that post is 2 months old from when I originally had the problem, I just never got round to fixing it. Thanks to John P, it got sorted last weekend.

The cause of the problem was that the seal at the top of the mast failed completely.

Paul

From what it looked like, there was some foam there to start with and then additionally whay tooked like bath tub sealent" on top of that; the boam had fallen down (or maybe been partly disolved by the sealent) and the sealent also did not seal.

John just put a load of epoxy foam in and we then taped it up for the night. Job done I hope.


 
Posted : April 22, 2007 1:53 pm
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One single pre-entry so far for the F16s...

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Posted : April 25, 2007 1:51 pm
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One single pre-entry so far for the F16s...

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I wonder who that might be ? <img src=

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Colin, fancy a sail Wednesday evening or Thursday, Mark and I are planning something Thursday around High tide and then out for Food and Drinks after.


 
Posted : April 25, 2007 2:12 pm
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Colin, fancy a sail Wednesday evening or Thursday, Mark and I are planning something Thursday around High tide and then out for Food and Drinks after.

What time is high tide? I was planning to come down on Wednesday evening and come out for a sail on the Thursday, but just to make things complicated I'll be starting in Munich on Wednesday afternoon, so I'm wondering if I should come up on Thursday morning. That said, Heathrow to Datchet to Mumbles is pretty straightforward, just means I need to pack everything I need for Mumbles a week in advance, which may require more preparation than I can manage.

Paul


 
Posted : April 25, 2007 2:34 pm
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The tides are tiny, not really an issue - I have taken Wed-Fri off so yes i'll be around to sail until the bar opens <img src=

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Posted : April 25, 2007 2:48 pm
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Colin, fancy a sail Wednesday evening or Thursday, Mark and I are planning something Thursday around High tide and then out for Food and Drinks after.

What time is high tide? I was planning to come down on Wednesday evening and come out for a sail on the Thursday, but just to make things complicated I'll be starting in Munich on Wednesday afternoon, so I'm wondering if I should come up on Thursday morning. That said, Heathrow to Datchet to Mumbles is pretty straightforward, just means I need to pack everything I need for Mumbles a week in advance, which may require more preparation than I can manage.

Paul

High tide is 23:07 and so Mark P was suggesting going out around 19:00 for an hour or so I guess.

I'm leaving Hitchin early (05:00) as I want to miss the traffic and get down early;

If someone is around to take my trolley up the slipway I might get out earlier, or go back to the hotel for a sleep !


 
Posted : April 25, 2007 2:49 pm
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If someone is around to take my trolley up the slipway I might get out earlier, or go back to the hotel for a sleep !

Just ask a passer-by - I do it all the time - ditto coming in - folk love to help...


 
Posted : April 25, 2007 2:56 pm
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As Simon indicates (I couldn't say 'says') High tide Wednesday is at 23:07hrs and a tiny 10.2m tide. Thursday there is only one high tide at 11:44hrs and it's a minuscule 10.0m or 32.8 feet. Just imagine what a spring tide is like!!


 
Posted : April 25, 2007 3:23 pm
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OK, I definitely couldn't make a sail on Wednesday evening. Are you still up for a little excursion on the Thursday? If so, what time would you head out? If I can comfortably get there and rig up on Thursday morning, I'll probably do that.

Paul


 
Posted : April 25, 2007 3:36 pm
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pah!


 
Posted : April 25, 2007 4:03 pm
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OK, I definitely couldn't make a sail on Wednesday evening. Are you still up for a little excursion on the Thursday? If so, what time would you head out? If I can comfortably get there and rig up on Thursday morning, I'll probably do that.

Paul

After I wake up !

If you are coing down Thursday AM; I guess have an early lunch and then go out ?


 
Posted : April 25, 2007 4:08 pm
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We are using ISAF Sailor IDs in the results so if your want your name linked to your sailing bio page, get yourself an ID. Some national level events make this mandatory now, so it's a good idea. In the future, it's also a possible route for easy entry into events - just give your ISAF-Sailor ID.

www.sailing.org/isafsailor

e.g.

http://www.sailing.org/bio.asp?ID=AUSDB1
http://www.sailing.org/bio.asp?ID=GBRCJ3

e.g. results with links:-

http://www.sailing2008.org/SpecailTopic/...s/r-tornado.htm


 
Posted : April 26, 2007 2:13 am
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We are using ISAF Sailor IDs in the results so if your want your name linked to your sailing bio page, get yourself an ID. Some national level events make this mandatory now, so it's a good idea. In the future, it's also a possible route for easy entry into events - just give your ISAF-Sailor ID.

www.sailing.org/isafsailor

e.g.

http://www.sailing.org/bio.asp?ID=AUSDB1
http://www.sailing.org/bio.asp?ID=GBRCJ3

e.g. results with links:-

http://www.sailing2008.org/SpecailTopic/...s/r-tornado.htm

I can never remember mine ! Each time I need to look something up, I have to search for myself !


 
Posted : April 26, 2007 3:40 am
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What a Circus? The vast majority of the expected 'A'Class sailors have already pre entered this event and wouldn't be surprised if their accommodation is sorted as well. This is more than can be said for the F16's. At present only Scooby and I have bothered. Taking the time to pre enter now is very helpful for the organisers (me) and will save you time and hassle when and if you enter. (a couple of minutes entering online = a couple of extra minutes at the Bar) <img src=

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Posted : April 26, 2007 6:03 pm
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Looks like the free drink offer for the first 10 entries will go to the As


 
Posted : April 27, 2007 5:37 am
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Looks like the free drink offer for the first 10 entries will go to the As

and Me ?

Have you got 10 A's yet ?


 
Posted : April 27, 2007 1:45 pm
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Despite the Circus syndrome I'm hoping that we should have 9-10 F16's = Me, Simon, Paul & Anne, Steve, Wayne, John A, Dave, Toby, Ed, Nigel? We might also have some guest appearances; John P or maybe Aron.
As for the 'A's we are expecting about 12-14
P.S Paul and Anne could have got their crewing tactics just right being the only 2 up Cat at present forecasts predict WIND <img src=

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Posted : April 27, 2007 6:42 pm
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