Time on the water will never replace time on the internet. Sail more often and you will be surprised how easy it is.
Ive used both systems and I totally prefer the single line setup. Even on the F18.
I had the single line setup but the problem that drove me to the two line, even when Uni, was that after several sets and douses, either the halyard or the tack line would eventually get 'kinky' and foul a set or douse. That and I find it much easier (less drag) to quickly pull up the halyard after the tack has been pulled out first, as was said earlier, it pulls the spin half out of the bag for you.
On the douse, I've been in situations where I was glad the tack line was still out (crash gybe in the middle of snuffing) as it kept the spin from going under the bow.
Like Robi said though, time on the water is the best cure.
Consider using No kink line
Wonder if Rick carries Paraloc??
If not he should-
Kirt
Or, you can pull part of the core out of the halyard and that will prevent kinks.
I ended up buying a halyard from Mike Krantz which is half soft stuff and half dyneema. The skinny dyneema starts just above my mast mounted halyard clete. I've had no problems since, but I'm still running the two line set up.
Now, here's a question, how do you tail off your downhaul lines so that you can reach them and adjust it while staying out on the wire? Right now I've got mine tied to the mast rotator, so I can grab both at once, but I have to come in to reach it. Is there a way to keep it handy while out on the wire?
When I sailed uni on the F16 I had all my control lines going around the trap lines. This way they were only a arms length away.
Yeah, I tried that for awhile but when fully extended out on the wire I'd still have to crouch down to grab them. Then I tried adding a piece of small diameter bungie cord from the control lines up to the trap handle area, so I could raise up the downhaul line when I needed it, ie. when I see a big puff coming.
That worked, but when I'd come in off the wire to tack, I got all tangled up in it! Too much stuff on my tramp to get tangled up in already!
You guys going to Daytona next weekend?
For the downhaul to your trapeze, you need to put a really small line through the line where your dogbone or whatever you use to hook into. Then have a ring on the end of that, run the downhaul through that. It should be at your stomach then...
Clear as mud?
I don't have this done, YET, but will do this. I know a couple that run it that way and it's perfect.
I go to Dubai on Friday, get home on Tuesday, so I'll miss it.
Clear as mud?
I don't have this done, YET, but will do this. I know a couple that run it that way and it's perfect.
Thanks Mike, I'll try that.
Something I just thought of, but I'm throwing this out, make sure you have enough line on you downhaul to do this.
Mike
Tell us how it works. I was thinking of such an solution, but never tried it. I try to keep things simple, so my downhaul and rotator go to the shrouds (if sailing double handed the downhaul goes to the forward trapez shock cord). Have to crouch to grab it.
Cheers,
Klaus
I found that with the DH routed via the trap line; I pull on downhaul and it gets in the way when trapezing down wind.
I just route it via the shroud plate and then either dip in to grab it or hold it in my aft hand while I play the mainsheet and then switch to play change the DH.
Agreed for single hand sailing, but when sailing double handed it is difficult for the crew to cross the trampoline during tacks or gybes without accidently pulling the downhaul or rotator. As a consequence I placed the downhaul more forward (the forward trap line goes through the front beam).
Cheers,
Klaus
Word of the day: coaching.
Spent the weekend in Daytona and several people commented that I'm sailing better. That's after two days of coaching. Obviously that won't correct 30 years of bad habits! So remember,
practice makes permanent.
Make sure when you do practice, you're doing it right. Imo, the best way is to hire a coach or attend a seminar.
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For double handed set up we like the downhaul going to the crews trap. You have to get used to it in the beginning, but it is very easy to adjust while trapping out.
http://alturl.com/yyt8t > on the beach tramp setup
http://alturl.com/9tqjk > on the water, you can see the downhaul line above my front leg
More tips&tracks on Matt's facebook page (Falcon Marine LLC).
I've got the SNU on both the Stealth and the 18HT, and I've very pleased with them. And Dennis is great to deal with. And I've never heard anything negative, what have you heard?
Dave
Nothing really. I only know a couple of people who use them. No complaints, but no great praise either.
I know on my FXone it was a massive upgrade over the Hobie unit, I never used the original ring that came with the Viper. The mesh bottom units are sweet because they drain, but the mesh does makes snuffing harder.