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Originally Posted by Lockenfisch
Hi F18-Community,

Thanks for reading and your comments.

Bye, LF

Hey LF,

Did you get your hull assessed at and dealt with? Let me know if you need anything else.


 
Posted : June 1, 2010 8:35 pm
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Originally Posted by TEAMVMG
Originally Posted by JeffS
the bridal tang pulling out of a 5yr old Infusion in Europe and the manufacturer was making the owner pay for the repair.

If it was 5 years old, it wasn't an infusion!!!

I expect that the owner went moaning on a forum before approaching the manufacturer, what was in it for the manufacturer after that?

http://www.f18.nl/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=36&Itemid=46

Nacra introduces a new Nacra in 2006, the Nacra F18 Infusion.

So should the boat be under warranty or not?


 
Posted : June 1, 2010 8:49 pm
F-18 5150
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Wait is this Catsailor or Sailing anarchy?


 
Posted : June 1, 2010 11:14 pm
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However, there was absolutely no need to refer to other manufacturers in your initial comment...

You are right... sorry guys. I just got caught up in the moment with those guys, earlier in the thread, slinging mud our way. I took offense to the Nacra guy slammin our build quality and the C2 guy piping up about buying a C2 and their great factory support... this was a thread about a Hobie guy with an issue. Same story here at Catsailor... different day. Everyone likes to jump in.


 
Posted : June 2, 2010 10:59 am
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quote] Everyone likes to jump in.

A priviledge that should be reserved for you alone?


 
Posted : June 2, 2010 11:31 am
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Originally Posted by pgp
A priviledge that should be reserved for you alone?

Uhhh... its a Hobie thread? Remember way back at the beginning? I think it might be expected for me to jump in. I've got no problem with others doing the same, but being helpful is always better.


 
Posted : June 2, 2010 11:36 am
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Same question.


 
Posted : June 2, 2010 11:54 am
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Just sometimes I wish we had moderators <img src="<>/wink.gif" alt="wink" title="wink" height="15" width="15" />


 
Posted : June 2, 2010 1:53 pm
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Why not get some? Oh wait- we have some on the F16 forum but it hasn't seemed to help much ;-o


 
Posted : June 6, 2010 1:51 pm
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And now it's official... <img src="<>/sick.gif" alt="sick" title="sick" height="15" width="15" />

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Posted : June 6, 2010 2:18 pm
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Don, is that a hobie or nacra snuffer? I get the two confused!

I am not liking the way some people perceive these forums as

their

forums.


 
Posted : June 6, 2010 8:55 pm
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Dazz,
I believe the gentleman was referring to the thread, and not the Forum.

Dennis Key makes a nice snuffer for any brand - http://www.gobarefootstudio.com/snu_08.html
So I'm going to guess the one in the picture is from the Capricorn that Dennis has as a background shot.

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Posted : June 6, 2010 10:38 pm
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Don, I know.. just so many pedantic posts.. probably myself included.

That SNU looks like an updated model... from the website the price looks updated too! ouchies!


 
Posted : June 7, 2010 12:04 am
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Pricing was updated to include shipping in the US and some additional materials in the latest generation. Still a great deal when priced against replacement stock parts.


 
Posted : June 7, 2010 12:27 am
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I was just about to drill and rivet my SNU to the pole. Is that a bad idea?


 
Posted : June 7, 2010 6:19 pm
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Don't do it. It's not necessary. Just wrapping with a few sections of vinyl tape works fine.

We've also found it works best if mounted forward, to the point where the first velcro strip is in front of the bridle. I'll try to find a picture.


 
Posted : June 7, 2010 7:01 pm
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The C2 is a bit different, Don - they went with a two-patch spinnaker, which means the bag is a little longer (92-inches instead of 78).

Bob, your SNU does not need to be riveted on. You can do it if you want, of course, but it really isn't necessary. Three zip ties and seven wraps of electrical tape over each tie. Dennis has an instructional video that is in post-production now. Your bag will extend aft past the front beam. I'll get some pics for you.


 
Posted : June 7, 2010 8:18 pm
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I don't like the idea of that John, the downhaul will cut a hole in the top of the bag. TA did that to my boat, when I got the new bag I put it back to the standard length. no more holes!


 
Posted : June 8, 2010 4:34 am
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Originally Posted by John Williams
The C2 is a bit different..

And so are the guys that sail them... <img src="<>/laugh.gif" alt="laugh" title="laugh" height="15" width="15" />


 
Posted : June 8, 2010 8:39 am
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Hi Dazz -

A pic will resolve the issue... the bag passes aft on the port side of the post - a straight shot to the retrieval hole in the tramp. The cunningham passes through the tramp at the front beam on the starboard side of the mast. None of the cunningham lines contact the spinnaker bag.

With a two-patch spin, the standard bag isn't an option - you have to have a bit more length.


 
Posted : June 8, 2010 10:30 am
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Hey, let's let this thread die. I'll post pics of the SNU on a C2 in a new thread later.


 
Posted : June 8, 2010 10:50 am
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Hi everbody, please excuse me for answering that late - i was abroad - but as I see did you entertain well with lots of off-topic 😉

So, what happened?

Nothing.

My friend will not buy this boat. The dealer was pretty concerned but didn't offer the from our point of view only solution: changing both hulls. In fact he didn't make any offer until now. So time goes by and we are going to Texel with my old I18 <img src="<>/frown.gif" alt="frown" title="frown" height="15" width="15" /> and forget about Hobies 2009 Wildcats.

Cordially, Uli


 
Posted : June 8, 2010 12:15 pm
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IMHO replacing both hulls is an extreme measure and I doubt many dealers would have gone along with that.
I also don't see why once professionally repaired it wouldn't hold up for many more years.


 
Posted : June 8, 2010 1:50 pm
Lockenfisch
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You are right Tony,

but if you would have seen and heard these hulls I'm sure that you would have the same opinion. Maybe they repair these two specific places on each hull nicely. But what happens in one, two or more years in other areas of these poor quality hulls?

You know what I thought Hobie would handle the case? Taking these hulls out of public immediatly, examine them, let them disappear and put new ones one the boat.

Bye, Uli


 
Posted : June 8, 2010 2:09 pm
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Originally Posted by TEAMVMG
Originally Posted by JeffS
the bridal tang pulling out of a 5yr old Infusion in Europe and the manufacturer was making the owner pay for the repair.

If it was 5 years old, it wasn't an infusion!!!

I expect that the owner went moaning on a forum before approaching the manufacturer, what was in it for the manufacturer after that?

Sorry Paul it was a Nacra F18 here's the link to the thread.
http://www.catsailor.com/forums/ubb... ;Main=17277&Number=189842#Post189842
It's still good to know about problems that happen so that I can look at the area's on boats before purchase


 
Posted : June 8, 2010 4:54 pm
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Originally Posted by Tony_F18
IMHO replacing both hulls is an extreme measure and I doubt many dealers would have gone along with that.
I also don't see why once professionally repaired it wouldn't hold up for many more years.

If I paid the money the dealers are asking for the new F18's I would want new hulls too (if I bought the boat new). You even say

you don't see why once professionally repaired it wouldn't hold up for many more years

that means you have doubt about how long it will last.


 
Posted : June 8, 2010 10:02 pm
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I think this guy's name is Two-patch Spinny...

A friend of yours JW?
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Posted : June 8, 2010 10:28 pm
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Originally Posted by Dlennard
You even say

you don't see why once professionally repaired it wouldn't hold up for many more years

that means you have doubt about how long it will last.

I'm not a native speaker so maybe I wasn't being clear enough.
A proper repair job could make it stronger then it ever was before.

According to my math the boat is one year old: 2010-2009=1.
I guess this means we are not talking about a new boat here but a used one.


 
Posted : June 8, 2010 11:35 pm
Lockenfisch
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The hulls will be send to Hobie factory now. So the boat probably will not be ready for sailing for weeks or so - no matter what they do with the hulls.

Anyway, I don't want to pick too much on Hobie. The boat is a awesome speed machine and we unfortunately had one of the

Beta-Boats

. (has a low double digit sailnumber)

Bye, Uli


 
Posted : June 9, 2010 4:26 am
Lockenfisch
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End of season is very close here now so lets finish this story too. Somebody who is often at that Hobie shop recently told me that the boat will get both hulls new.

SRY thats only third party info but I'm on the nacra side of the force *g*


 
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