A trend toward smaller boats and singlehanders?

Single handers:

1, Crew problems
2, People are busy and so cannot commit to sailing every weekend and so finding and keeping a good crew is difficult (this is why I went Single handed about 8 years ago)

Smaller boats

1, Easier to manage on the beach
2, Speed of smaller boats is getting closer to the big boats and so you can get the same amount of speed in a smaller boat.

Agree with Scooby's points. I myself have 2 single-handers.

For me, it is the simplicity. I can be setup in half the time, no worry about who and what is going to crew with me, when they're going to get there. If I can get off work at lunch-time at the last second, I can be sailing Friday evening with no questions. Conversely, if I have to work until 8pm Friday I can manage that too. Lastly, I'm in complete control of the amount of training and skill it takes to become better at it. The maintenance and upkeep on the simpler boat is actually less $$ in my case too (at least in the short term).

During the Harken races this past winter (in Dunedin, FL) My friend and I watched with AMAZMENT as these 70+ year old guys lifted the mast off the boat (while standing on the beach, in front of the beam), and lowered it solohanded, without a pin to pivot it. Actually, both our jaws dropped (literally).

I asked if i could feel its weight and he said

sure, but it will cost you $20,000 after you fall in love with it (to purchase an A-cat)

.

If it wasnt for the cost.. i would love one. I would still want to have a boat i can take crew / gear out on (even though i sail solo 90%) ... so this is really a

post lotto dream

.

The first time I took my mast down, I thought something was hung up because it was at 60 degrees and I was still having to pull it down....it was the breeze.

I can rig and de-rig my F16 mast with ease.

1. Every time I lift my 165 pound A-cat, my back says

Thank you Very Much!

2. My wife says she is too old to crew (65? COME ON!)
3. The Hot Hobie Chix- the crews of yesteryear are gone away somewhere, married, overweight, too old too. OOp-- politically incorrect - but Back in the Day, not so much.

Still I will always treasure that white crocheted bikini....twas '72 Mount Dora, I know.

I love sailing with someone else who knows what they are doing in high winds. However, if I only sailed with someone else I would sail about half as much. I used to think I wouldn't like sailing solo but I certainly do. I couldn't do it if my boat weighed more than it does. Pointless to have a boat you can sail solo but still need 2 people to get it in and out of the water.
As more people feel the thrill of sailing solo downwind with the spin up from the wire I think more and more people are going to be interested in single handed spin boats.

I've seen a migration from 'bigger' boats too.

To quote a Melges 24 sailor in SF that just bought a brand new H16. As I slapped the invoice on the counter, he remarked,

That's what a main costs for my other boat.

J

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i didnt know people bought new H16's... i just assumed they ALL came

used

.... lol

what is the going rate for a new h16?

Well, my 16 isn't exactly small or light, but I can single hand it just fine.

The big thing is lack of crew. I practically have to get on my knees and beg people to come crew.

For this reason, I think my next used boat is going to be a Mystere 4.3. Just so I can handle it more easily myself.

I want to say about 10,000 clams.

I think all the reasons have been stated already. But I'd echo them.

I enjoy sailing solo - sail when you want to, go where you want to (events). A major benefit is not being able to pass the buck - I know that any improvement has to come from me.

The smaller / lighter boat just makes the whole thing practical. There's no less sensation of speed, and in fact I think the thrill increases as the boat size reduces. The more I sail the Shadow (solo), the more I love it - it is so responsive, and as a solo sailor you can really become a unit of

man and machine

. The Shadow can beat with the best of them (well, maybe not the A Cat), and gives helluva ride downwind in a blow, trapezing with the kite up.

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Crew issues

That and I always worry that my crew doesn't have their head in the game all the time. Like last year I was coming smoking into the gate on port on a H16. For what ever reason I didn't see 3 H20's stacked up also coming in hot and on starboard. Emergency gybe, and everything was fine. But that could have ended poorly for my crew, getting bashed in the head with a boom, fist whatever. I should have been paying closer attention to traffic, but so should have my crew. I think I looked earlier and assumed that they weren't going to cover that much ground so quickly, and wrote them off as not going to be an issue.

I am also waaaay calmer when I'm by myself. I don't get nearly as wound up, worked up, or pissed off when things are going the way they shouldn't be. In the back of my mind I always think there is something the 2nd person should have done differently, whether there actually is or not. With just me on board its all my fault and I can deal with that.

The only thing I don't like is not having someone to talk to between races.

Wow Karl, perhaps you should switch to the decaf?

Just kidding, i feel the same way.

i get upsed when crew dont do their job correctly (which is everything i want / expect them to do) and would rather do it myself.

I have yelled at almost evert crew that gets on my boat, (and that is very out of character for me.)

My girlfriend will not go sailing with me ever again... and the word

spinnaker

is a dirty word and i am not allowed to utter it!...

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I didn't mean to dis any other boat classes. Setting up a Hobie 16 to go solo is still a lot easier than the double handed boats I used to sail. My life is stressful enough and I just want to increase my enjoyment at regattas.

I'm not a yeller. Double handed I don't yell if something is done incorrectly, if and when I yell it is to make sure that I am 100% understood, and there is no question as what needs to be done. Like:

BLOW THE JIB!!!!!!!!!!!!!

when a pitchpole looks inevitable when its howling, or some other unavoidable action needs to take place to save us from certain peril and it needs to be done now.

Is that because you talk to yourself?

I'm not a yeller either! I am only speaking very loud and with expletives to make sure they understand it needs to be done fast and correctly.... (doesn't seem to help when i explain this... i still get a mutiny)

LOL I can picture it now:

[color:

red

]So Jake, how's it going today?
[color:

blue

]Not bad Jake, doin' some sailing.
[color:

red

]I see that. Overstood A mark a bit didn't you?
[color:

blue

]A bit
[color:

red

]You know, if you were to strangle some prostitutes and bury them down by the river, you'd probably sail better
[color:

blue

]I don't want to do that anymore.
[color:

red

]You have to Jake, for us.

Either i am missing an inside joke, or someone DOES need to switch to decaf!

My tag recently changed from H20 to P15 and I'm

chuffed to bits

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In the 22 months we had the Miracle 20 we raced a dozen or so points regattas and two NAC's, which was a blast, big fleets here in the midwest and great people racing in them, but other than racing, the boat was sailed I think four times recreationaly. Just too much of a hassle to put together for an afternoons' sail. Traveling away from our immediate area was necessary to race hence rising fuel costs was a bit of a consideration. Making the decision to sell left the backup H16 as the only boat left to rec sail and I don't feel completely comfortable (@75kgs) soloing two-up boats.

My poor man's A/F16/? Prindle 15 weighs 260#'s (reportedly, haven't weighed mine), has a rotating mast, and darn near as fast as a H16 (DP-N 76.2 vs 76.0) Although I'm learning how to tack all over again (I was bestowed the nickname

Iron Man

my first day out), it's very nice to have something I can rig, launch and sail alone when our crew life schedule doesn't allow racing or rec sailing our H16.

Saving pennies for a used A Class.

No inside joke, I don't know Jake personally, it just made me think of the stereo typical schizophrenic killer talking to his other personality. Thats all..... Like the movie: Mr. Brooks?

You need to get out more.

16A Start at Rochester, NY last weekend (that's only 2/3 of the boats on the line - there were 22 in 16A)

There are only two boats in that photo that are more than 5 years old. Eight of them are less than a year old.

My '07 cost $7,500 (white sail hidden behind 110099)

Wasn't it you with the

roses are red

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I tried two different smaller single-hand boats, one of which had a spinnaker. In the end, I went back to what I love the most - two-up spinnaker racing where teamwork counts a lot and there are women in the fleet. The downsides I gladly tolerate. I don't fault anyone for the choices they make in this regard - thankfully, there is still a lot of cross-over in the fleets, so I get to see most folks somewhere soon or later.

Still think after talking to Bob Curry a lot I am going to get a Nacra F17 and a jib kit for when I want crew. Good strong boat that an take high wind and be pushed to limit. Now that I have learned the spin on the Mystere 4.3 I am ready for a hotter boat.

Doug

1. My wife enjoys sailing, but would much rather be a passenger than a crew.

2. I can go sailing or racing when I feel like it... or not. No hassles to find crew or disappointment if something else comes up.

3. Eliminates the unknowns of boat balance and sail trim, and someone else's reaction time.

NO it was my evil twin! lol

I may have joked about multiple personalities... but i didnt include chopping up and burying ladies of the night!