saturday i sailed on my boat, but sunday i was asked to race in the frostbite series on a j-24. how do you deal with a crew member that wants to do everything? instead of asking for something done on the foredeck, he'll leave his trimming position and do it him self. see-, i hooked up the jib cunningham over the spin sheets, which is wrong, he saw it, didnt bother to tell me and runs up front and does it himself. this is right after the "one person does one job" speech. i dont know what to say to him.
Give him the "work like a team" speech and if that still doesn't do it... your only alternative is to keel haul him.
let him know that if he doesn't let you know when you have made a mistake and actually show you what you did, or tell you what it was, you won't learn how to do it correctly and will most likely do it again.
Don`t sail with him again.
I crewed for a skipper on a 26ft keelboat who would drop the helm & run off to the foredeck to fix a problem.
Needless to say someone else had to run back & grab the tiller or the boat would choose it`s own route, with the spinnaker up this frequently turned into a chinese gybe situation.
If you want to stay on the boat, next time he does it, stop him & ask calmly "Now who`s doing YOUR job ?"
Cheers
Steve
Maybe he either doesn't explain procedure well or teaches by example or has dealt with other "invited crew for the day" before that couldn't comprehend what he was trying to explain or maybe he was annoyed that you were on the boat after your rigging error. Unless you have been in his shoes you really don't know his motivations.
For example...I was told that a "catsailor" wanted to crew on my boat. Experience level was around 5 years sailing a H16. I thought this person would understand how to trim a jib, weight transfer, where the downhaul and luff tension were approximately. What I didn't expect was a supposed "sailor" that wasn't familiar with the term "clew". So here we are on a medium air day and my asking if this person is certain about going out. The answer was lets go... After twenty minutes it was time to go because of a forgetten appointment. When I beached this "crew" was off the boat offering no help about placing the boat into the wind and up the beach pucking their guts out in front of several people. "I will never do anything like that again!" was the last thing heard.
The point is that the "new crew guy" has to prove himself worthy of being on board! No one knows the new crew's abilities! Especially in a race scenario where team work is developed over sailing/racing experiences over time not one afternoon. He may have had experiences where a "new crew" had caused problems.
You might inquire how many times a "new crew members" have been dropped into/onto the regular crew???
AT the 2001 Corsair Nationals I was booted off two crew lists because I had no experience as a spin crew on an F31R. The third F31R guy was high centered and I pitched in to push him off. Every crew on board had experience with the spin but me but I got to go. After two days training this F31R crew [5 sailors who had never seen each other before] competed to 10th overall . After watching for a couple of hours I started doing what anyone didn't want to do. From going to the low side to retreive a spin sheet dragging to hoisting the main with a broken sheave in the mast. By the first race we had designated specific duties to each crew as well as taught me by example how the "best method" each duty was to be performed.
I have been racing since 1959 and have learned one lesson... theres my way and the skippers way. I really don't care what knot is used or how the sails are trimmed unless I'm the Captain and then I do care and expect it to be done as I want from previous training/racing experiences. The new guy has to fit even if his feelings are bent...Actually I expect the new guy to be in the grease as soon as we leave shore.
thom
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As I understood your post, it was not the skipper who ran up to correct your error, it was another crew member, probably a regular on that boat.
And you did not really describe the cirumstances at the time. Were you racing? Were you preparing for the start, when there is a lot of pressure and maybe no time to be explaining things -- just the need to get it done right now? Or were you just on your way out to the race course with plenty of time to do some training and explaining?