>>I have seen some of these 90s design boats with the downward sloping foredecks pitchpole when no other boats in the race pitchpoled. I guess someone needs to tell the builders of some of these new boats about the "other aspects".
Of course you did as at least one builder made a huge mistake while trying to copy the flyer design. He even called it an improved setup, but was wrong. HOWEVER, this doesn't means that the Flyer itself is less dive resistant than the 90's generation A-cats which had taller bows. Because the Flyer is regarded as more dive resistant.
By the way; the downward sloping deck is not the goal of the flyer design but a result of other factors. The working core of the design is the redistribution of the volume. Some is taken away from the top and put near the keelline.
But like I said in my other mail ; The rule that taller bows are better with regard to dive resistance than shorter bows holds in many cases despite the fact that exception are known.
Wouter
Bill,
>>You could add P16 and 18 to your list.
Haven't they have been discontinued and therfor they there not available in the US. At least that is what I was told.
Wouter
PS If you want to go off on a tangent, get into a discussion with the guy purposing Torpedo shaped submarine hulls for a catamaran sailboat.
Well that boat would be a pitchpole waiting to happen.
Wouter
Well that boat would be a pitchpole waiting to happen.
Why do you think that? to my mind the thing that prevents pitchpolling is more volume in the bows, and a low drag bow regardless of the trim of the boat.
If you take Hakans view to the extreme, that any volume above the water line is wasted, then a torpedo would be a good shape if not the best.
Gareth
Hi Will,
Consistency is a part of quality. I too wish the T clas would go for three different stiffness masts but I do not think that is in their plan. "One size fits all". It is a good thing the rules makers don't think like that in Olympic track events and make everybody wear the same size track shoe because that is more "ONE DESIGN".
The outcome of an Olympic caliber catamaran race is much more highly affected the normal variation in crew weight than in the location of crew weight along the hull to minimize the inertia of the sailing system. The rest has all been said before so I am not going to say it again. Some day the rules makers will finally get it right.
Bill
>>It is a good thing the rules makers don't think like that in Olympic track events and make everybody wear the same size track shoe because that is more "ONE DESIGN.
You hit the nail on the head here Bill.
A good one.
I picked up a 1982 SC17 for $2500 this past summer to sail the windy afternoons at Cowichan Lake on Vancouver Island. I am really a novice sailor with good fundamentals - read a lot in preparation for cat sailing. I can tell you that the SC17 is a blast, a rocket flying a hull on the edge of thrill and terror; but thankfully no pitch poling in heavy wind and water. Several times I buried the bow, eased the sail ever so slightly and the bow came up like a surfacing sub. Quite easily clocking 25 knots and unbeaten against a Nacra 6.0 and a 5.5, and numerous Hobies. The others look at my 25 year old SC17 in amazement! I can't wait for next summer, so much so I think I'll do some winter sailing off Victoria BC. THanks Bill Roberts!!!