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Nacra 17s at Miami OCR

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 Karl
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What's the deal with the scoring? A throw out after two races? Us that a Olympic thing?

Dalton, nice dude!


 
Posted : January 28, 2013 7:04 pm
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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
spin run and windward board up. Is that how you have to sail those foiling boards?

That must make gybing a bit more challenging to have to adjust the boards every time...

Haven't sailed the 17, but sailed the Carbon 20 here in Singapore a fair amount this month. We sailed with both boards down both up and downwind up until about 10-12 knots of breeze. Above that, windward board comes up upwind and you have to tack the boards. Downwind I'm not convinced where the transition to raising the boards is- might depend on chop. We have very flat water in Singapore. We didn't raise the windward board higher than the leeward downwind because you are flying the hull higher.

Now, the boards on the 17 are actually longer than one the 20, so all I said above could be completely wrong!


 
Posted : January 28, 2013 7:32 pm
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I like the RRS change to RET from RAF. But, why did they retire?

Mike


 
Posted : January 28, 2013 8:07 pm
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Do you still have to sail 8 miles down Key Biscayne to the race circle? Maybe they needed to make a repair?


 
Posted : January 28, 2013 8:27 pm
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From what I heard it pays to double trap going downwind.
Shame that mostly the

bloopers

get published and not the regular pics (mark roundings etc).


 
Posted : January 29, 2013 3:18 am
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NASAR Nation, or a sinister plot by the monohullers that control the world?


 
Posted : January 29, 2013 8:14 am
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If it bleeds it leads. Ever watch NASCAR highlights or Hockey highlights?


 
Posted : January 29, 2013 9:41 am
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Originally Posted by ksurfer2
I doubt if it is staged. Many of the teams at OCR have not sailed the N17 before and I'd guess never sailed a boat with lifting foils before. Why risk damage to your boat or body right before the start of OCR for a photo stunt?

Because when you're shopping for sponsorship $$ you need to be a bit of a media whore. Do you really think anyone putting together an olympic bid thinks they are a piker?


 
Posted : January 29, 2013 9:48 am
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Originally Posted by David Ingram
....thinks they are a piker?

I'll admit I'm about as far out of social conventions as possible and still interact with the human race (you are an odd race I might add... it's going in my report to the mother ship), but what is a

piker

?

Ding, are you going all Madonna on me, developing an english accent despite living in the 'Compton hood' of Orlando?


 
Posted : January 29, 2013 10:04 am
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http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-pik1.htm


 
Posted : January 29, 2013 10:07 am
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Okay, thanks. I was trying to get my phone app to translate from

jive

to 'merican english


 
Posted : January 29, 2013 10:09 am
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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
Okay, thanks. I was trying to get my phone app to translate from

jive

to 'merican english


 
Posted : January 29, 2013 10:54 am
 Karl
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Originally Posted by David Ingram

Because when you're shopping for sponsorship $$ you need to be a bit of a media whore. Do you really think anyone putting together an olympic bid thinks they are a piker?

Obnoxious graphics, bright butt sails, and a pissy attitude is how I landed Sogn Cabinet Company, inc as a sponsor. Harder than it sounds, the the dude in charge of advertising is a mf-ing tightwad.


 
Posted : January 29, 2013 11:04 am
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Looks like twenty - two knots on Biscayne Bay this morning with much of the same in the forecast for the rest of the week.

This series will be a true test of boats, sails, and sailors alike.


 
Posted : January 29, 2013 11:20 am
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Sarah and JC rock another bullet. Anyone know what the 10% penalty on USA 38 is about?


 
Posted : January 29, 2013 11:38 am
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Are there Olympic wind rules? Are they in effect for Miami?


 
Posted : January 29, 2013 11:42 am
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wow...

[Linked Image]


 
Posted : January 29, 2013 11:51 am
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To answer some of the questions above:

1 throwout after 2 races per SIs.

The are sailing in the bay, course Echo. There is a chart in the SIs if you want to calculate the distance from their launch site to their course circle.

I couldn't find anything about the RET.

There is a protest schedule listing the DPI as a result of a protest lodged by RC. No other details, but no shortage of possibilities based on NOR and SIs.

Edit: The ISAF race management policy document is also posted on the notice board. They cannot start in winds over 25 knots (5-minute average), but will not abandon if the wind goes higher unless they determine it to be unsafe. There is a lot of interesting stuff in there, including the fact that if the RC determines that they missed an OCS boat, the race cannot continue. This is in direct conflict with what I have been taught by multiple IROs, FWIW...

Mike


 
Posted : January 29, 2013 12:05 pm
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Results refreshed - looks like a pecking order is getting established...


 
Posted : January 29, 2013 1:34 pm
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Looks like a perfect day for it, SE at 15-21, 81 degrees.

http://www.weather.com/weather/right-now/Miami+FL+USFL0316


 
Posted : January 29, 2013 2:16 pm
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Originally Posted by John Williams
Results refreshed - looks like a pecking order is getting established...

A pecking order perhaps for this wind condition.

Let it go single trap and things will probably change.


 
Posted : January 29, 2013 3:47 pm
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Will be interesting to see which combination works best regarding male or female crew.
Can girls do all the physical stuff just as well as the guys? (sheeting, hoisting/dousing the spin, etc).


 
Posted : January 29, 2013 6:13 pm
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+1, still a lot of racing left.


 
Posted : January 29, 2013 7:05 pm
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Originally Posted by Tony_F18
Will be interesting to see which combination works best regarding male or female crew.
Can girls do all the physical stuff just as well as the guys? (sheeting, hoisting/dousing the spin, etc).

I think it depends on the team. Sarah Lihan (sailing with Taylor) is super fit having done Radial and 470 campaigns. She is also over 6 feet tall... I wouldn't put anything past her!


 
Posted : January 29, 2013 9:07 pm
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Are they racing again today?

Supposed to get sporty about noon as the front approaches.

KMIA forecast winds are 130 at 17G23.


 
Posted : January 30, 2013 8:57 am
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Yes - results for race 5 are up...

edit: I got one side of the story on the 10% penalty, and I'm trying to get the other. Sounds pretty damn Mickey Mouse so far... the RC from another course protested a N17 for passing too close to their race circle... and the protest was upheld.


 
Posted : January 30, 2013 12:19 pm
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Breeze is reported to be about 15 knots...


 
Posted : January 30, 2013 12:23 pm
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Originally Posted by John Williams
Yes - results for race 5 are up...

edit: I got one side of the story on the 10% penalty, and I'm trying to get the other. Sounds pretty damn Mickey Mouse so far... the RC from another course protested a N17 for passing too close to their race circle... and the protest was upheld.

Not that gem again...

What circle? PM me if needed.

BTW, why did Enrique's score change to RET for Race 4?

Mike


 
Posted : January 30, 2013 1:04 pm
F-18 5150
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Anyone know someone named Sarah that wants to sail? Position 1,2,3 right now have a Sarah on the boat.


 
Posted : January 30, 2013 2:38 pm
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Scores up through race 6...


 
Posted : January 30, 2013 3:04 pm
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