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(@Christopherb75)
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Hey there corsair,

If your still in ned of assistance I can offer some help.

1./ I'm down in Gellong at the Amy Gillett bike ride this Saturday, and would be happy to drop past and help you out if your around Geelong on Sat Arvo....

2./ The other option is you trailer the boat down to Altona Yacht Club, where I can meet you and we can work toward setting your boat up. I could probably do something on Sunday if your interested...

Your thoughts? If interested send me a message on chris.bick@gmail.com

Regards

Chris


 
Posted : January 3, 2007 6:11 am
(@corsair)
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g'day matt and yes ther is an obvious block looking lonely , i like the way you put things. And yes i have seen a few cats around town, so i will be intruding on a few . i think they all sail hobbies around here ,but i did see a blade the other week,i just thought it might be good to have some one in the know about mossies. But hey they all might be thanks again,for the advice .
Corsair 2


 
Posted : January 4, 2007 2:18 am
(@thomasc)
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Try anglesea motor yacht club, but they all sail 17's there, but being cats they are very similar to rig. I have been sailing down there a little since i bought a 17. but will be at RGYC hopefully tomorrow and down at anglesea on sat for thier races


 
Posted : January 4, 2007 3:14 am
mattaipan
(@mattaipan)
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Yeah Mate that looks something like what you want, but I can't tell if it a vang setup (which you don't need) or the downhaul. But work out how to attach it to the bottom of the sail (should be an eyelet or something there) and that'll take five years off the sail straight away <img src=

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Regards


 
Posted : January 4, 2007 3:43 am
(@corsair)
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cool thomas, i was actually going myself, for the training day so will see you there .P.S. The sailing program for 06-07 tells me sat 6th training day, and Sun 7th club championships 15&16. regards Brett


 
Posted : January 4, 2007 4:53 am
(@thomasc)
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sorry i ment sunday for races at AMYC, getting confused with the RGYC calender


 
Posted : January 4, 2007 4:41 pm
mattaipan
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I did edit my last post I thought, but I had another look at photo, can't be a vang doesn't look long enough, must be the downhaul.

Regards


 
Posted : January 4, 2007 6:29 pm
(@corsair)
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G'day matt and everyone,wondering if anyone can help me with block setup along the boom. I am having difficulty in setting up blocks correctly.Wondering if i have the right blocks,also sheet set up (where they run) and jib sheet . I would appreeciate any photo's of connecting the traveller. carn't quite work out how traveller and main sheet are independent of each other. Thinking i might have the incorrect blocks etc,etc. any help would be great. Thanks again Brett
Corsair 2


 
Posted : January 8, 2007 2:50 pm
mattaipan
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Gday Brett

You'll have to post some photos of what you've got.

1) A picture of the blocks of the boom (if they're fixed to the boom or a picture of the mainsheet blocks together.

2) A picture of the traveller car or that area in general.

When I first put my mossie on the water, I used the tail of my mainsheet as the line to adjust the traveller, but found in the heat of the moment, it was harder to find the place to grab to sheet off/on the traveller. So, that said, I used a different colour line for the traveller and tied it to the end of the mainsheet.

The traveller should/could have a cleat either attached to it or just in front of the rear beam, on the centre beam. We'll say for the sake of the exercise that your using the mainsheet tail as the traveller line, thread the tail through the traveller car from front to back, and should tie off on the back surface on the rear beam (could be a saddle mounted there, I go for a walk and take a photo of my boss's sons wreck for reference.

Back Shortly


 
Posted : January 9, 2007 3:04 am
mattaipan
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Very very poor example, but the boats around the same age as ours. Someone will have a better example, but my mossies at our other farm.

Your mainsheet will depend of course on what blocks you have, so best not pay too much attention to that.

Regards


 
Posted : January 9, 2007 3:26 am
(@corsair)
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great matt, thanks mate , i'm getting the picture . by the way that mossie looks in better shape than mine. I think i bought a bit of a lemon . Anyway good for the knowledge, matt i have the back cleat set up like your photo AND also another right in the middle of trampoline ,my question to all is do i still need this cleat. Middle of center beam,middle of tramp. I am trying to talk to the chandler in geelong (four winds marine). Many ways to do things , i am understanding that, The blocks that where in the sail box are off the titanic i think. Ihave nothing on the boom and i'm wondering whether there are supposed to be ,to bring a sheet down along the boom about halfway or something,to this center cleat that is really in the way of things(middle of tramp)any suggestions would be great . Just finding it hard to find a good picture or diagram of how it should go. From boom. I think im dizzy now .Brett
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Posted : January 9, 2007 5:16 am
mattaipan
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Hi Brett

I wouldn't say that, this mossie would have been in reasonable condition up until a few years ago, it hasn't been sailed for years due to lack of interest, family and of course no water, it got moved to a less sheltered spot, and well you should see it up close, I think it might be able to be rescued, that might be a good project this year.

Your mainsheet, theres two options I suppose, one being rear sheeting, which basically means the entire block system runs from the rear beam to just forward of the end of boom (at the clew), some prefer this system, as I do. The other option which you might have, is centre sheeting, the majority of the block system is still at the rear, but then goes forward to another block about half way along the boom, then down to the middle of the tramp/centre beam. Its personal preference really. The main difference I suppose is when centre sheeting, you are sheeting pretty much in a straight line with your body, as opposed to rear sheeting where you are sheeting off-centre or across your body.


 
Posted : January 9, 2007 5:58 am
mattaipan
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Go to Page 10 of the F16 forum, theres a thread there, Rear Beam Sheeting - Interesting Photo.. The first post has a centre sheeting A Class, good photo, you'll get the idea.

Regards


 
Posted : January 9, 2007 6:13 am
mattaipan
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Rear Beam Sheeting, bit harder to see, but the whole setup is at the rear.


 
Posted : January 9, 2007 6:19 am
mattaipan
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Gday Brett

Are you going to take it out this weekend? If you are what day and where abouts? I won't promise anything, but we could do with getting away from here for a day, so I could possibly meet up and check out the boat.

Regards


 
Posted : January 11, 2007 1:58 am
Tim_Mozzie
(@tim_shepperd)
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Have a look at the mainsheet systems on this page:

VMCA - tips - mainsheet systems


 
Posted : January 11, 2007 2:19 am
(@corsair)
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Hi matt i went and got new block fittings and will try the forward beam system as i already have cleat set up on the center beam . bloody pricey fittings . Iam making some new rudders out of cedar this weekend also new dagger boards. Hope there strong enough. Have my doughts. But already cut them so if they break i get some others. Need to re rivet the diamond spreader retainers also . so maybe not this weekend.But getting close now. My number is 0413281457,if you want to catch up that would be good. I'd really like to see another mossie being set up and sailed .even get on one with somebody. thanks for all the help with pics.


 
Posted : January 12, 2007 4:57 pm
mattaipan
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No Worries Brett

I have since decided that I should stay home and a day or two in on my boat and stop making excuses, like sitting at the computer <img src=

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Hopefully my avatar will have changed by the end of the weekend, could be updated now, but may as well make it worth it.

Yes, block are dear, I've got to buy my new system shortly, as well as a heap of other fittings and not looking forward to hearing the total, I get mates rates though, so that should take a little of the sting away.

Anyway back to the boat, while I'm in a motivated mood.

Regards


 
Posted : January 12, 2007 6:36 pm
(@Anonymous 39158)
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on making rudders and centre boards out of cedar how are you shaping them and what are you covering them in, glass kevlar or carbon. it would be good to see how they turn out. as i have a set of timber rudders that need to be covered in fibreglass.


 
Posted : January 13, 2007 1:48 am
mattaipan
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Heres a picture of the centreboards I made probably 12 years ago, I used the step method with a router and finished by hand, covered in glass.

I also made cedar rudders with the fibreglass rod push down arrangement, but I broke one when I fell on it during a capsize, I made another to replace it and then got Boyer kickdowns, out in the shed somewhere, can't find them, like a lot of stuff out there. <img src=

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The centreboards use cedar, oregon and I think huon pine, just boatbuilding scraps from a boatbuilder. Strong as.

Regards


 
Posted : January 13, 2007 3:14 am
(@corsair)
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can anyone tell me where to purchase rudders and center boards in vic, regards Brett


 
Posted : January 17, 2007 2:10 am
(@wildtoy)
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Have you tried Boyer.
I heard he makes decent rudders and centre boards


 
Posted : January 17, 2007 2:36 am
(@tryagain)
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Brett, I was talking to Jim Boyer this afternoon and he has a set of V-series Blades and 11" boards.
Peter


 
Posted : January 17, 2007 4:40 am
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