Ehhh, right.
I posted in this thread as I'm also an former Texel rating official and I saw a few false statements regarding the Texel ratings that were best corrected.
I'm sorry if that pisses you off.
With regard to support. I'm glad that you get that from your local Nacra and Hobie agents. Honestly, the F16 class is structured differently; here the class members are also the support structure. Someone locally makes this class happen (and this did happen succesfully at many places around the world) and the fleet doesn't dependent on commericial agents to do the job for them. The specs of the F16 boats demand such independence or we too would weight the same as a Hobie 16 and cost as much as a new F18.
Personally, I feel the Aussie version of the Inter 17 is a nice boat. I don't like the EU version (far to slow) and respect the US version (F17) because the latter is fast modern design.
Regards,
Wouter
I hear you Wouter, but there's no interest for the F16 here in FNQ, why???? I'm at a Loss to explain other than the aforementioned reasons. I believe that the factories that manufacture the F16s are based in Victoria (Victorians generally have a low opinion of Queenslanders) and South Australia. I did speak to one F16 sailor, and was on my way to owning one at one stage until I had a sail of the Inter17.
Since then it has been a case of trying to build my cat sailing skills and I'm now at the point of starting to learn Spinnakers. I have all the theory done and locked in the skull. But as you'd be well aware, theory is theory, practical application is another thing.
If you ever come to Australia, you are welcome to stay here, I have a spare room, and you can have a sail of Devons boat. I have a new Nacra coming also, but not of the Inters calibre.
Oh BTW, Corrections don't piss me off at all, I've only really started to see the difference between the F/I17, previous to this thread, i was of the belief that they were one and the same boat. We do value your opinion and I must apologise to you for the rant, because you have only posted quality information in our section. And for that i Thank you.
Eng
Thanks for your reply, I appreciate that.
Best winds to you and lots of enjoyment with your new boat.
Regards,
Wouter
I think the F17 is a fantastic boat, that's why i bought one... should be taking delivery in the next week or so from Nacra Australia.... Let's not forget that the boat was originally designed here by Roscoe... IT took the big boys to recycle it and spit it back out with a slightly altered rig but essentially the same thing... Hmmm makes me wonder, we had it right all along....
try living in Indo mate....
but I know what you mean, in fact the NACRA guys in QLD are pretty good, they helped us import a number of boats into Thailand a couple of years back.
I love FNQ, lived there half my life (moving back next year) but you can hardly call it a progressive society. The Formula rule boats (16s) will come, but it might take 10yrs <img src="<>/wink.gif" alt="wink" title="wink" height="15" width="15" />
Import a boat to AUS? There's so many fantastic boats down there it's a bit like importing sand to the beach. <img src="<>/grin.gif" alt="grin" title="grin" height="15" width="15" />
But joking aside where did they send the mold's (US? EUR?)and what did the big boys do exactly?
Also does anyone know if all F17's have the same hull shape and weight or has the hull been modified over time?
Thanks. <img src="<>/wink.gif" alt="wink" title="wink" height="15" width="15" />
They sent the moulds to US mate, but I think they changed the hulls slightly (less rocker) and the F is a bit heavier than the Inter.
The moulds could be near you somewhere now.....
Hi Guys,
Sorry to disappoint you BUT, we had a boat from the original moulds beside my new one at the factory, the changes are very minor indeed;
1. Bow point
slightly
more rounded.
2. Hulls canted 4 degrees.
3. Deck mould/inserts most likely off the Inter 18.
4. Mast straight off the Infusion.... Yes the rig is obviously different....
In all other respects the hulls are identical! They have thrown the new boards and rudders on the boat... Again, probably to avoid
manufacturing copyright
....
The rumour that the rocker was changed was probably started by a vested interest in the O/S arena to dick Roscoe out of hard earned $$$...?
Yes, I support Roscoe, but i'm also a realist... <img src="<>/smile.gif" alt="smile" title="smile" height="15" width="15" />
Have a nice day, I'm going sailing!!!
Cheers,
HooHooHoo
So why would somebody want to import a boat when the local version seems to not only cheaper (less import duties) but also it's lighter and therefor more desirable. Is there some point that I'm missing?
Also is the newer version easier to right with the f18 mast? thanks <img src="<>/cool.gif" alt="cool" title="cool" height="15" width="15" />
Sorry to disappoint you BUT, we had a boat from the original moulds beside my new one at the factory, the changes are very minor indeed;
1. Bow point
slightly
more rounded.
2. Hulls canted 4 degrees.
3. Deck mould/inserts most likely off the Inter 18.
4. Mast straight off the Infusion.... Yes the rig is obviously different....
In all other respects the hulls are identical! They have thrown the new boards and rudders on the boat... Again, probably to avoid
manufacturing copyright
....
The rumour that the rocker was changed was probably started by a vested interest in the O/S arena to dick Roscoe out of hard earned $$$...?
Yes, I support Roscoe, but i'm also a realist... <img src="<>/smile.gif" alt="smile" title="smile" height="15" width="15" />
Have a nice day, I'm going sailing!!!
Cheers,
HooHooHoo
Hi mate,
To my Knowledge, Briscat don't have the moulds anymore.
Chocko