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(@mattie411)
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haha, I'll take some more pictures as it is going back together. I can post some of the painting process as well and the rebuild. We finished the trailer and it looks great. hopefully it warms up this work so we can continue the hulls...


 
Posted : May 9, 2010 3:43 pm
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Here is the system I got. I may have to adjust the length of the adjuster line but its just what I had so I can cut it shorter if need be. Any suggestion please let me know!!!


 
Posted : May 11, 2010 3:39 pm
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looks right to me (with the exception you noted of to much line. you can remove the extra once you've had it on the boat and see what is correct).

i have a t handle after the stopper ball on my set up. its pretty easy to fumble with that little stopper ball when trying to pull yourself up (adjust higher) to get out of the way of a wave or similar... if you have weight on it (you on the wire hanging over the side of the cat) and it gives me a much better grip. the only reason i keep the ball on there is if you slip and the entire system pay's out (lowers you)... the handle can jam in the cleat/ or be out of reach for me


 
Posted : May 12, 2010 8:08 am
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That definitely sounds like a good idea! I'm not sure I'm using the right rope for it. I've got soft hollow braid so its got some give to it, just what I had on hand. Will that be alright or should I swap it out for some stiffer rope?


 
Posted : May 12, 2010 1:48 pm
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to be honest not sure what hollow braid is.. but if it has no core and is only a jacket i would go with something stronger.

you can use cheap xls (extra low stretch) and shouldn't cost much at all.

u should inspect your trap line (and cables) for frays every now and again. I have heard several stories of people taking unexpected "baths". the guy i bought my cat from told me he was on the wire and noticed a few freys, went to pull himself in and they went "ding, ding ding - SPLASH" i wish i saw that.. 🙂

one note about the t handle. i use one just like pictured above. i had to cut down the end a bit to fit my line through it. you will never get that line you are using through a handle without drilling..


 
Posted : May 12, 2010 2:14 pm
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yah just looked at it a little closer, it does have a core but is soft and just feels like it will stretch a lot. going to swap it out for some stiffer stuff...


 
Posted : May 12, 2010 2:47 pm
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Yeah, make sure you use quality rope for those types of controls (sta-set or a relatively inexpensive sailing rope works fine).

No hardware store stuff or your hands will never forgive you. It's also no fun when a cheap line gets wet and stretches to twice its normal length dragging your butt in the water.

D.


 
Posted : May 13, 2010 8:33 am
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No hardware store stuff or your hands will never forgive you. It's also no fun when a cheap line gets wet and stretches to twice its normal length dragging your butt in the water.

well it's no fun for the dragee, but it's a hoot for the other skippers 🙂


 
Posted : May 13, 2010 11:02 am
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Well, I got the paint finished and got it all back together. had it out for a sail yesterday but the wind was pretty light and I forgot to put the one end cap on the beam so it was filling up with water. spent all day today sealing everything with silicone and making sure its all sealed tight, filled the hulls with water and didn't have any leaks. So if it cant get out it shouldn't get in right... anyway Here is a pic of it on the grass after I was done working on it. Will get an action shot next time we take it out. Turned out really nice.


 
Posted : May 30, 2010 12:20 pm
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just found out my uncle too some action shots

Few more here http://jgleed.com/LaurinBoatLaunches/index.html

You can see in a couple how low the hull is riding, when we got in it was over half full of water.. lol

edited by: mattie411, May 30, 2010 - 05:33 PM


 
Posted : May 30, 2010 12:27 pm
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Wow! That is a thing of beauty! Great job on the boat!

How did the hull fill with water? Did you find the leak?


 
Posted : May 30, 2010 1:47 pm
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well the one cap had come off the end of the tramp beam and I suspect the water was going in there where the bolts go through the hull. I Sealed it up today and tested it by filling the hull with water.. there wasn't any coming out anywhere so I'm pretty sure I got it. No nice wind in the forecast though so may be a few days before I can give it the real test. We also forget to paint the rudders, Other than that everything worked out great, Cant wait for some decent wind to get the hull flying!!


 
Posted : May 30, 2010 2:44 pm
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Not that it matters now but I wouldn't test for leaks by filling the hulls with water, that could cause more problems than it's worth. Usually you attach a piece of garden hose to the drain plug and blow into it, someone can then look for leaks or brush areas with soapy water. You can also use a hair dryer or vacuum, but even that much pressure could damage the hulls.

Hmm, interesting that the bolts go through to the inside of the hull but weren't sealed. Hopefully that solves your problem, like I found, even small cracks can cause large amounts of water to enter the hulls while you are moving. I would suggest using a really good marine sealant/adhesive like 3M 5200. That stuff works awesome for sealing rivts and when putting fittings in the hull (like eye straps for a trapeze etc). Once dry it acts like a super strong flexible adhesive, quite impressive.

The rudders look fine from the pics anyway. Cool shape.

That is one sweet looking boat, I would like to know more about her.


 
Posted : May 30, 2010 5:00 pm
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Im pretty sure thats a Freestyle 474. It looks almost identical to my boat and the description seems appropriate. Only thing is it looks like the mast might be added with the Hobie sail. Not positive tho because the only side shot is it in the grass and iv never had mine sit in the grass. The rudder shape and the assembly look identical. What kind of hobie sail do you got on there? I'd like to add an a newer sail to mine.

edited by: ryman522, May 31, 2010 - 04:40 AM


 
Posted : May 30, 2010 5:38 pm
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Im not sure I just bought the boat this year with no info about it. The mast is 25 foot, I can measure the sail if you want


 
Posted : May 31, 2010 12:37 am
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So I was out sailing today on the wolf beast and had a catastrophic tramp blow out. The whole side and half the backed ripped and almost went for a swim. We were moving a long pretty good when it happened so it was a pretty funny scare, lol. We made it back alright was just a little tricky sailing the one way after that. We also almost pitchpoled, I shifted my weight to the center so coil up a loose rope and the wind picked up a lot just as I shifted and we started to lift and with my weight in the center the low hull went under somehow we avoided the pitch-pole still not sure how, lol So if anyone has an old tramp lying around let me know, were desperate right now and cant afford a new one with a baby on the way. all in all a fun day , and NO leaks!!

-Matt


 
Posted : June 28, 2010 3:29 pm
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Oh man that's not good. You will probably have to get one made up custom. There are a few guys who do them relatively inexpensively. Tampa Catamarans could probably hook you up for $200ish. Unlikely that you will be able to find one that fits used or cheaper than that.


 
Posted : June 28, 2010 3:52 pm
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